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- From: Philippe Verdy <100105.3120@compuserve.com>
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: Borland C++ Upgrades
- Date: 24 Mar 1996 12:07:35 GMT
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- rmorin@inforamp.net (Randy Charles Morin) s'Θcrit :
- > >On Mar 22, 1996 21:55:58 in article <Re: Borland C++ Upgrades>,
- > >'dkat@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu (Donna Kat)' wrote:
- > >>I cannot expressed how really ticked off I am at BORLAND C++ 4.5 in
- > >>print! I was also led to believe that I would be getting upgrades.
- > >>When I got 4.51 and had serious problems with it (e.g. it will eat my
- > >>hard drive when I open DOS TURBO DEBUGGER even without using it),
- > >>I called to find when I would be getting an upgrade. I was told
- > >>emphatically that I would only get UPDATES! and that there would be no
- > >>free upgrades. Unfortunately, I had recycled the offer as soon as I
- > >>ordered the product.
- > >Like so many other dissatisfied customers, you are being incoherent
- > >and inconsistent in your statements. Maybe you're so angry you
- > >can't think -- or at least write -- straight.
- >
- > Pete, do you do anything in this newsgroup but flame people? Everbody had
- > trouple getting their 4.51&2 free upgrades. I've seen a couple posts in this
- > newsgroup, I had trouble and I've shared stories with other troubled users.
- >
- > >Assuming that "Upgrade" means going from one major release to the
- > >next, and the "Update" means minor changes to an existing major version,
- > >I have a question: When have you ever gotten a free upgrade from any
- > >vendor? Exception: if you purchase a version very close to the
- > >release date of a new one, vendors sometimes do upgrade to the
- > >next version for free. In such cases, you get a written certificate to
- > >prove your entitlement. If you purchased 4.51, then this provision
- > >doesn't apply to you.
- >
- > Borland promised the 4.51 and 4.52 upgrades to everybody who bought a
- > particular series of the 4.5 compiler (almost everybody). Microsoft also
- > offers a subscription service that offers you three free upgrades. Free
- > upgrades are the hot new marketing tool in the software industry. But then,
- > from your previous uninformed and immature comments, I don't expect any better
- > from you.
- >
- > >>I really liked BORLAND 3.0 and only upgraded because of the free
- > >>upgrade offers
- > >What free upgrade offers? From 3.0 to 4.0? I don't believe you.
- >
- > The free-upgrade was from 4.5 to the next two releases. I thought this was
- > common knowledge. I guess you just don't know what you are talking about.
- >
- > >> and the fact that I was told that the problem I was
- > >>having with values not being passed to my array from a library
- > >>function was due to the fact that I had upgraded my motherboard and I
- > >>needed the upgraded compiler for the faster board. I have become
- > >>dependent on the debugger or I would just go back to a line command
- > >>compiler.
- > >Huh?? Come again. More incoherent drivel.
- >
- > Pete, you've proved yourself to be clearly the biggest asshole in this
- > newsgroup. You've also proved that you don't know what you're talking about.
- > Have a bad day.
- >
- >
- > Agrivar
- >
- > aka Randy Charles Morin
- > MiddleWorld SoftWare
- > Canada: 1-800-363-3780
- > Other: 905-279-2087
- Borland, like all other software companies make distinction
- between "update" and "upgrade". The only thing that is free
- of charges is support for minor corrections and revisons to
- a major release. Upgrading is not free, because a major version
- adds value to a product which was sold without claiming the
- new characteristics. Upgrading means new functionalities so it
- needs a new license. It may of course be cheaper than a complete
- new license for registered users of older major release.
- An update does not change the license. It is only giving
- corrections to functionalities which should work on the first
- license. So this "update" only works on particular major
- versions, and are not usable for upgrading an old one.
- So you can freely update from 4.50 to 4.51 or 4.52, but you
- cannot upgrade from 4.02 to 4.52 because you change your major
- release. If you have Borland 4.0x or lower, you need an
- upgrade (and it will not be free).
- After all, software companies need money to pay their new
- development. You have a new product so you have to pay.
- Updates are part of the software support.
-